S6 – Ep 15 | 1966 Listener Pick, 2018 Albums & Dig It or Dump It

Craig and Kevin kick things off with a listener recommendation, diving into Black Monk Time by The Monks — a raw, proto-punk release from 1966 that still sounds ahead of its time.

From there, the guys jump to 2018 for their albums of the week. Kevin spotlights Cry No More by Danielle Nicole, a powerhouse blend of blues, soul, and rock. Craig counters with Chrome Neon Jesus by Teenage Wrist, delivering a hazy, emotional mix of shoegaze and alt-rock textures.

To close things out, it’s another round of Dig It or Dump It, with quick-hit takes and plenty of strong opinions to wrap the episode.

From proto-punk beginnings to modern blues and alt-rock — this one spans decades and styles.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:14

Hello and welcome to Skits for Net Music. This is Kevin, and I'm here today with Craig, and uh we're gonna talk some music and stuff like that. Maybe have beverage. How are you doing, Craig?

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Good, man. How are you? Good week.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Doing alright. Doing alright. Can't, you know, can't complain too much. Things are good.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Nice. It's been uh a little bit cooler out here. Weather's starting to cool off a little bit. Got some storms coming in that's bringing in some of the cooler weather, which is nice. Um all right, let's crack open a beer. What you got?

SPEAKER_01 0:47

Uh I'm no, I know this is I know you know I have this, but uh I have not I haven't shared this, I'm not had it on the cast, but uh of course one of my favorite breweries, because right next to my hometown, is Bell's, and I have a Bell's best brown, is what I have going on to see.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

That's an excellent brown ale, dude. That used to be a go-to. That used to be a go-to for us before I was into IPAs, so I've always liked that beer. Um I got one for you. Oh no, no. What else is in the variety pack?

SPEAKER_01 1:21

I said I got a there was like a Bell's variety pack, and it was like the best brown hazy harder. And two harder ones in there and one other thing, which I'm now drawing a blank. Ah, see, you know, anyways, it's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Um I went back to a brewery that I fell in love with early in my craft beer days. Um and I still dig them. I've just um I'm into some of the more local stuff, but I'm glad to find this. Super crushable beer. Dogfish Head. Ah, yes. They have a Grateful Dead series. This is called Citrus Daydream Lager. Super crushable. This is a really good beach beer. To my knowledge, this is what I love about uh Dogfish Head. They were one of the first bands to participate, one of the first labels to participate in Record Store Day. They have promoted bands for a long time. They've they they were the first one, I think, that did a Grateful Dead themed beer. Um, just good stuff, man. And they've done a ton. They did a Miles Davis, uh, Bitches Brew, Imperial Scouts, so good. So yeah. Um, hey man, last couple times we cracked these things open, I've been hearing it. So maybe the magic will happen again. This will be three times in a row. We'll see what happens. You ready?

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Count it down.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Three, two, one.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

All right, very nice.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

And I remember the other ones. It's a smitten golden rye ale. Oh, that's right. And an official hazy, and then the best, and then two-hearted.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

You said that uh smitten rye, that's the one that I was really interested. You said that was tasty.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

It was good, it was very good. Sweet. That's one thing. I mean, it's great that Bell's is available here, but you know, being able to go like into Bell's and in Kalamazoo and just you know, sample the stuff would be cool too, but you know.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

That's where the magic is.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Yeah. I opened sloppily.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

That's uh I did I did too, man. I did the same thing. I spilt a little bit. I have a little uh um eyeglass or sunglass little wiper I just wiped in for that. A little scoff law glass here. Like I said, super crushable, not something I would.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

I'll have to do that because I I love the uh you know the whatever the the other Grateful Dead one. The pale one? Yeah, the pale. Yeah, I think they have a lot. That's excellent.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

So this thing is uh, like I said, it's actually better out of the can than it is in a glass. All right. Some things are like that, so it's perfect for the beach. All right. Well, um, we had a listener email. We promised we would review an album later. So um, Kevin, I misread the email, so I was thinking that this is this album was released in 1971. It's not. So every time when we cap off an episode, we'll say, hey, tell us what your album is for that year, or any year. So he chose any year. This album from the Monks called Black Monk Time, um, is from 1966, which impressed me more because when I listened to it, it's not on streaming. So I couldn't find it on Apple, couldn't find it on Spotify. Uh, I found it on a site where I can buy downloads. Uh, so I downloaded it there. Very good, but I was thinking it was gonna be 1971, and so when I was listening to it, I was like, man, this is god, this is really progressive, especially for 1966. Right. It reminds me of like, if you remember bands like the Sonics, sure. Um, The Remains, especially the Sonics, those are the two of the fucking really good stuff. I agree with him, man. It's got a little bit of a proto-punk thing. It's like a precursor to it. Good stuff. What'd you think?

SPEAKER_01 5:13

I thought it was cool. I didn't, I mean, I listened to songs because I do I was gonna actually go to a different site like you did and try to just buy it and download it, but I listened to like pieces because there couldn't, you couldn't get all of uh Black Monk Knight. You couldn't get the whole album or whatever. It wasn't available on like Apple or Spotify or any of the streaming so for stuff. So I listened to like I guess bits and pieces of what's on that album. And it was it was good, but it was yeah, it was very I mean it's interesting. You can see it. It was you could see the I could think maybe the progression or what he was talking about in the email for sure.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

Yeah, for 1966 it was awesome. So good job, thanks, Spence. We appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Um all right, this week and we'll always we're always open to other suggestions. We'd love to check out new stuff. So let us anybody let us know, let us know what you what you think, what you want us to check out.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

We've said this a billion times before. If you listen to us, you've heard us say new to us is is new, it doesn't have to be just recently released, and this was new to us, so that's this is awesome. It's a new discovery. Um, good stuff. This week, uh to recap for the people that don't haven't been followed. If you're new, hey, welcome in. Thanks so much for joining us. Um, our goal here is to tackle 1960 to 2025, last year, and to select albums that we think are overlooked, underrated, or both. We have finished half of that list, we do it randomly, we just do a little shuffle. This week is 2018. I am not sure whether we're gonna start with this, or I've got some stuff for you if you want to do that. If you if you'd rather do the album, Dealer's Choice, you're the dealer today.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Let's go into the album, I guess, first, then we can uh cool.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

All right, man. Which what you think? What you got?

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Me first. I guess I'm going. All right. So obviously, not I mean, this feels like it was just yesterday 2018. It's like, oh, you know, we were doing lists and stuff then, and this album did make my my list and of that year. And it's an artist that it's one of those things where, I mean, there's all kinds of stuff, but there this artist is nominated for a Grammy. Did she did not win the Grammy, but was nominated. But if you ask the normal general listening, the general public who you mentioned this person's name, and they'd be like, Yeah, I have no idea. It's kind of like in that situation where you know, like Fantastic Negritos that like most has more than one Grammy now nominated, all kinds of stuff, but most people don't know who he is, right? Yes, okay. This person is a blues artist, so blues doesn't get as recognized maybe as you know other genres, and you're saying Grammys, they don't, you know, they don't that they don't announce the best blues album on uh you know on the uh on the TV and you know during prime time or whatever, but this artist came out, she's a bass player. I've seen her in concert playing bass for with uh North Mississippi All-Stars, which was pretty cool. And but she released her first solo album in 2015. She started in a band called uh Traveled Underfoot, which was like a band she had a blues band she had with her brothers, and they won like best one of the blues awards, best blues album of the year, things like that. She released her debut in 2015, and this is her second album in 2018 called Cry No More. It's an artist by the name of Danielle Nicole.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

So just great stuff. She's often, I mean, you want to compare her to somebody, and I can somebody I just saw last night, she gets compared to quite a bit, is Susan Tedesky, Bonnie Raitt, you know, in that kind of lane of you know, blues. But she's got, I guess, three albums now. She came out one in 2024 as well. I think she's got one coming out soon because she released a single just a couple couple weeks ago. But this album's called uh Cry No More by Danielle Nicole. Just a straight-ahead good blues. If you like something like Susan Zedesky, Bonnie Raitt type of blues, singing, songwriting, that's what you're gonna get here. It's excellent. Love all of her albums. This one is probably my favorite, though, Cry No More.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Awesome. You had me going in two different directions. So at very first, I thought, oh, he's going Fantastic Negrito. And then you mentioned him, and I was like, okay, it's not him. And then I was thinking you mentioned blues, and I'm like, oh, it's gotta be Doyle Bram Bram Hall III. Uh yeah, say please. What's the Fantastic Negrito? Please don't die. Please don't die. Please don't die. Excellent album. Uh, so I thought you were gonna go on either one of those because those are two albums that I feel like very overlooked. It's so hard for somebody to get a Grammy and think that they're overlooked. They're very overlooked. But I was I was trying to think of so this is great. I I need to go back and listen to the Danielle Nicole because I I remember loving that album when you released it. By the way, I just realized.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Please don't be dead, that's the name. Please don't be dead.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Please don't be dead. Okay. Um this reminds me, I think we launched in 2018. Okay. I think that's our first year, so this is really cool. Because I remember talking about these albums when they were fresh on the podcast. So this is really cool. Um, all right, I'm gonna fly through some stuff real quick. Honorable mention stuff uh that were contenders for me before I go into mine because it the it was tough. There's a ton of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Yeah, there's some good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

So some you know, Go Go Penguin had an album called Humdrum Star, it was excellent. Um, Gaz Coombs, which is the lead singer of Supergrass, had an album called World's Strongest Man. Uh Tommy Garrow had Road to Nowhere. If I'm if we're going with my favorite album, I've already selected him. I wouldn't go with it, but my album of the year was It's a New Day Tonight from Michael Ralt.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

Michael Ralt.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Um Ari Rohr had an album called Uh Calm Down. That was his debut, full length, excellent. Uh Phosphorescent had an excellent album called C'est la vie.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

C'est la vie. That was yeah, I love that album.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Excellent. Um, Connor Youngblood had an album called Cheyenne, I think that's his debut. Love Connor, very, very unique. That was a strong contender. Wild Pink had one called Yolk in the Fur, all excellent. I was thinking that the ones that were true contenders were there's a band called Now Now had an album called Saved. Excellent album. It's very poppy, it's very indie, but emphasize the pop side of indie pop. Uh they were kind of an emo band prior to that. Excellent album, super catchy. But the two things that were the most content, three things that were most contenders, Nat Burchal's Sound Almighty, just incredible roots reggae. The two things the most, I've talked about those before, the two things I haven't talked about that I'm gonna give the real honorable mentions. I'm no one throwing a lot out a lot here. Uh Curtis Rausch had an album called Cosmic Campfire Music. Excellent. It's his only solo album. He's in another band called Social Light. I can't remember what the band is. They're still doing stuff. He hasn't released another solo album. It's excellent. He's a great guitarist, he's a guitarist in that band. But the one that was the I was waffling back and forth with was Dan Mangan. Uh, Dan Mangan had an album called More or Less, and that's what I developed. That's how I discovered him. Love that album. So that was really, really close. But if I'm being honest, nothing was played more than this band called Teenage Wrist. Had a song called Chrome, had an album called Chrome Neon Jesus. Absolutely phenomenal. Blew me away. It's their debut album. Um, didn't really know what I was getting into. I just thought, well, that's an interesting band name. Definitely an interesting title for the album. And I looked it up. I was looking where did they come up with it with that name? So the phrase Chrome Neon Jesus is interpreted as a representation of ephemeral glow and the feeling, the fleeting nature of life and fame often associated with grunts. So these guys are young, they're definitely influenced by the 90s. I also think that combined with two bands. Um, to get into the neon part, I think Silverchair, because Silver Chair had a song, had an album called Neon Something. I can't remember Neon Ballroom or something. Um, but the big one is Catherine Will has an album called Chrome. And I guarantee you that they that was a huge influence for that. And that's why I love this because when I heard it, I go, the minute I heard the second song called Dweeb, which I defy you, if you play that in your car and you crank it, there's no way you're not gonna drive fast. It's just not possible. It is just a freaking banger. Um, the first time I heard that, I I thought it sounded like crank from the album Chrome from uh Catherine Wheel. I I love this album. They've got three albums, they've had two scents. They had one that followed up called uh The Earth is a Black Hole, I think is the name of it. And then the last one is things called Still Love. Don't love that album as much. I like the second one a lot, but this album, I still go back to it often. It is very it's shoe gazy, it's grungy, it's all those things. It's really kind of an amalgamation of like Silver Chair and and and Catherine Wheel. It's got a lot of distortion to it, but it's got a lot of melody. The the vocals are very strong. It's a three-piece band. I just think they kick ass. And this is their best album, you know. I'm hoping that they the next album they come with comes back to this sound because the last album they put out, it wasn't bad. They haven't put out anything bad. It's just a little too glossy, and they did the like a cameo from what's his name, Martinez from 311. I was like, I could do without that. Anyway, uh rambling here, but yeah, freaking killer year. Like I said, I mentioned the Dole Brown Hall, I mentioned the uh Fantastic Negrito. There's a ton of stuff that these are the Martin Look.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

There's a bunch of stuff. The Tys a Gall album was that with that year. Excellent album, yep. Then there was the one that I I almost went with was uh and you introduced me, and I just loved the album. I listened to it a bunch. You saw them like open up, I think, or something, anyways. But it was that that Phil Cook album, People Are My Drug. Oh, that's just that was just a great album. So I mean there's a lot of different ways you could go here, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Yeah, he opened up for Hiskold Messenger, and he was part of Hiskold Messenger's band. So it was great to see him open up on his own and then play with the band. It was it was great. All right. Uh 2018, I thought was a great year. Yeah. Um, like you said, it's hard to believe that that was almost eight, what's eight years ago? Right. It doesn't this doesn't seem like it, you know. Does not seem like it.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Because I thought I was making a list that year, so we were talking about it, and then it's like, so it yeah, it just feels like it was pretty, it feels just yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

I don't think I kept my list from 2018 or 2019. I have everything from 2020 on. I'm just gonna hold on. I've got this little I'm a I'm a geek this way.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

I've got I had them I had actually written stuff down and then took pictures of it and different stuff, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

I've got 2020 to on, but I know I make I know we made a list. We actually did our best of that year, so um good stuff. All right, um, all right, let's move on. We'll we'll have a little bit of fun here. Uh if you if you've got something for me, that's cool. We can go with that. I definitely have something for you.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

All right. Well, go go ahead. I have maybe something, but it's probably not as uh not as instructions. All right. We're doing like we're doing what uh what is it, Brian wants us to we're gonna a little bit off the cuff stuff. So go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Oh yeah, he wants us to riff. Let's riff. I think I think we can riff off some of this stuff. This is some of this stuff's real goofy, but that's fine. All right, dig it or dump it, Kevin. Go okay, skipping songs on the first listen.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Dump it, you can't do that. You don't do that the first listen?

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

No, I don't. I listen to the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

I gotta be So you don't you don't sample something and listen sample the first five or six tracks and go, okay, I'm bookmark that, I'll come back and listen to it later. Or like for something you have no idea what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Oh, I mean, I'll maybe listen to it and then come back, not listen to the whole thing, maybe, but I don't skip things if I'm listening. If I'm listening to the album, I don't skip anything. Don't skip songs the first time.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

So when when I agree with that, once I'm ready to listen to the album, I listen to the whole album for sure. Right. But I will skip, I will scan through things. Maybe so I'm going with you, I'm gonna dump this as well because I think it's more of like you're just skipping it and you're listening to the album that's actively all right. Uh this goes back to the 90s, a little bit of the theme here. Dig it or dump it, Kevin. Hidden tracks, secret songs. That C D with do you think that C D stopped?

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Right. It was always fun. There were some songs, like they were like it would do some weird stuff, or there was like track, it was actually tracks like 68 or something, you know, like I kept on going. Yeah, but yeah, so it was cool when you get when you found something that was a secret. I'll I'll dig that.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

I love that, man. All right, this is real serious. Dig it or dump it, Kevin. Eating in the car.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

I would rather not, but I'd have to I do sometimes, you know, especially if we're driving on vacation, something like that. We're we're we're getting down the road, you know. So but it's not good, you know. You it's messy. There's only certain things you can't eat certain foods in the car either, you know.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

So yeah, you're not ordering spaghetti or anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

No, no. There's only like fast if you're going like you're driving somewhere like fast food, you know. You can't like grab Taco Bell because you can't eat that in the car, you know, you gotta get especially dry too, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Sure. All right. Um dig it or dump it, Kevin. Interludes or segues on Album.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

I think I can dig that if it's done right. Yeah, I'll dig it. Segway. I like the segue. Segway's cool.

SPEAKER_00 20:12

Kevin, dig it or dump it, real serious here. People who bring their own snacks everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

Everywhere. I don't know, man. I guess dump it. I mean, it's it's just I'm just not that's not me. You know, I just can't I don't plan ahead that much to bring a snack everywhere I go.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

So that's a shocker. You're not a planner. No, I'm just kidding. Um no, the reason I I mean, look, I do like bringing snacks to breweries and stuff. My beef is when you invite people over to your house and you're hosting and they decide to bring their own stuff, it almost seems like, well, your stuff's not Yeah, that's not cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah. Unless you said, hey, bring something to share. Like, you know, right.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Yeah. All of a sudden they bring their own stuff, they eat their own stuff, and they don't eat what you made specifically for everybody.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

Yeah, that's not cool.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

All right. Dig it or dump it, Kevin. Sell out accusations when artists go mainstream.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Dump it. Because I mean give me a break. I mean, there's one, it's like it depends on if it's something that's totally like just I don't know, if they totally change and make if it's just like a total cash grab type of thing where they're I don't I don't even know an example, but you can't blame somebody for you know making some cash, right? But a lot of times you get people that are upset when somebody's popular. And I'm not Sounds wrong, but it's not their fault that they're popular. You know, they still releasing the same stuff, you know, but then like, oh, they're not punk anymore because now like they're on the radio. I'm like, well, people other people just started liking them, you know. I know it's cool to have your band and that you know about not everybody does, but you really want them to be successful too, right? So right, yeah, you can't, unless it's something like they just totally like phoned it in. I mean, I don't want to give examples, but there's some people that you know that found that made some cash, and then next thing you know, all their albums sounded like that, you know, like they had a hit. There's one band that we talk about up, we've talked about it more than a couple times where this one album was excellent. Then they had a they had a song and a movie that got a lot of play, and next thing you know, everything they're releasing was a ballad that sounded like that song for the movie. And yeah, and it's like ooh, they used to be like a pretty heavy band, and now they're you know singing sappy ballads all the time, you know.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

So yeah, I totally dump it. I don't even know if that exists anymore. This is definitely something that you know, 80s, 70s, well, not even 70s, I think it's more 80s and 90s than anything else. And I've never liked it because like even you think of punk, I was really into punk in the 90s, right? Really into punk, and I can tell you a lot of the punk bands, and look, most of the stuff is on Epitaph, by the way. The Teenage Wrist album is on Epitaph, which I think it's cool that they've branched beyond just punk. But some of the best albums I've heard punk wise were the albums that were their first album on a major label, right? You know, the Atlantic Record stuff for Bad Religion, Stranger Than Fiction, freaking killing. Right. The Sam I Am uh debut album on a major label, Amazing called Clumsy, was their best album. So I think it's bullshit. I think sometimes it's uh it gives them a little bit better budget, and so they can put a little bit more into it, and in some ways they get heavier, like Jaw Box is a prime example. I like Jaw Box stuff on Discord, but man, when they went to Atlantic Records and put out for your own special sweetheart, it's like holy crap, right? They hit a whole nother level. So, and it's it's without a doubt their darkest, eerieest, probably less least mainstream album they put out.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

So I don't I don't like it when a band was like really good and you really liked them and they it's like they had like a certain sound, or like that, you know. I don't like it when like their their major label debut or made you know is uh like you could tell it was overproduced, you know, it's like too smooth. They they they smoothed up all the rough edges where it's like, oh, that was some of the character before that band went to a major label. You know, there's it and it's like ah, you know, it's like you could tell they kind of changed them a little bit, or they had maybe the label had too much influence over you know what the sound was. So I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

All right. I think it goes both ways for sure. But I think the idea of selling out is is bullshit. All right, Kevin. See see how you feel about this one. I don't even know what your thoughts are on this, and I bet a lot of people don't even know what this is because we live in a modern era. Dig it or dump it, Kevin. Manual transmissions.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

I I'd I'd dump it. I'm not a I'm not a manual, I'm not a stick. Did you ever learn? No, not really. Nobody in my family never no one in my family ever drove a stick, and I never really had to, so I never really learned to drive stick.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

I know that makes me, you know, just my dad made fun of my sister and I both for not doing it. I'm like, well, teach us. He didn't do it. I don't have to.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

My dad didn't drive, nobody in my family drove one, so it's like, you know, yeah, never had the opportunity, really.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Um, yeah, manual transmissions, not something you see that often. You might paddle shifters, might see those on cars now, but right. Uh for the floor, not as much. All right. Keep going down this thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Or on the tree, you know, they got it on the the old the old guys.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Yeah, those are brutal. Uh so cool on a truck, though. So freaking cool on a truck. My grandfather had one of those killer. I wish I had that truck.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

No, no, yeah. It reminds me of my friend that had a friend's dad had a truck, it had a brody knob, you know, the you know, the which it's illegal, right? You just pull you just that knob, you could just turn the wheel like that. Oh I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

I haven't seen one of those in forever. I'm totally nostalgic for older cars, man. I'm telling you. And I so my my grandfather's truck was a Mac, it was like a 73 or 74 Chevy, two-toned, freaking beautiful. I would love to have that truck. And back then I didn't appreciate it, but now I totally want that truck. All right, let's keep down the same theme. All right. You already talked about long drives. Uh, dig it or dump it, Kevin, cruise control on long drives.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

You know, I don't ever think about setting it. I don't have an issue with it, but I just don't do it. I just I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

I guess I I don't my wife swears by it. And I just don't I don't I've never really used it that often. I feel like it's uh I mean obviously with self-driven cars now, right? With autonomous cars now, I mean it's like this is a precursor to it, right? You can just set and go, although not nearly as safe. Um but I always never felt I just never felt comfortable with it. Right. And the minute you tap the brake, it's like boom, just the whole thing shuts down. But my wife swears by it. Uh all right, we got two more here. Let's see if we can stay on topic here. Maybe, maybe not. Dig it or dump it, Kevin. Remastering classic albums.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Uh I guess you can go. There's I'm kind of waffling on this one. You could go different ways, but I'm gonna say dump it just because I don't need to, I like it the way it was. You don't need to remaster it. But then there's some situations where I think they've probably done good things, but you know, classics, I I want I really I'd rather probably listen to the non-remastered version because that's how it was made. You know, I understand when something's like horrible quality or something, but yeah, I don't want to. I want the rigid.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Same here. I don't have a beef with it in a lot of occasions. Like some of the I used to I fell into it more with the CDs because that's how you could get the CD, right? A lot of the stuff would be out of print and that'd come out where the remastered edition. But I mean, one of the best quotes ever in a store, and I really like this guy. Um I completely forgot his name, but he was an audiophile, uh, and he he loved listening to different variations on vinyl. Um, and so somebody came up to him and he goes, I just remember that guy talking about raw power, and he's like, I gotta get this latest reissue. He goes, for one, how many times can you remaster raw power? And what's the point? It's the frickin' stooges. Like, how are you gonna clean up power right?

SPEAKER_01 29:18

Do we need right exactly exactly?

SPEAKER_00 29:21

What's the point? All right, last one. This is one I I I think you're gonna dump this one. Uh digging or dump it, Kevin, talking to strangers at bars. I'll talk to people. Dig no, I'm I'm totally joking. This is like built for us. Right. That's all we do is talk to people.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

We're sitting, we've done like, unless it's I don't like you know, uncomfortably talk to somebody or whatever, like, hey, but you know, strike up a conversation. Why not, man?

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Oh man, I I will find if I can find a a way to edge in that conversation, I'll do it. Like I it took me no time at Ming King to get to know everybody at that bar for sure. And it's most people are, you know, you can tell when somebody's like they give you that, you know. If you don't know social cues, which I do, if somebody says, you know, kind of a little standoffish, it's like, hey, you just back away. Right. Nine times out of ten, though, at a bar or at a brewery, or forget about it, people want to talk.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Thumbs, two thumbs way up on that. Um let's talk about talking to people about music. Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Oh, that's good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

All right. So at work, for you at work, you deal with a variety like I do of different people in different areas, different, I work with different companies, you do too. How often do you have a conversation with somebody about music? How often does that come up?

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Not too often. Really?

SPEAKER_00 31:02

Same here.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

There's a few people when I just when I find out that somebody's into music though, then I will I will bring stuff up at that point. You know, like there's a guy that mentioned he was taking he had a day off or whatever, and he said, Oh, I went around town, you know, all of my favorite shopping for vinyl. I'm like, what? What? So I'm like, oh, what are you looking for? Then boom, that got into the whole, you know.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

What was he looking for?

SPEAKER_01 31:36

He was looking for uh Giza Liquid Swords. He was looking for that. Sweet. He was also looking for the one other one I remember was he was looking for a uh Johnny Cash album called Bitter Tears.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Just like an American Indian something like that, like an Indian American Indian something. Johnny Cash, Bitter Tears.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

So see, that just goes to show that there's people out there like us that are that diverse.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Because that's way different. You know, we're talking about like Wu Tang and Johnny, you know, right, Johnny Cash.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

So it makes you want to work harder for them though, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:15

So but I but now knowing that, you know, we we we don't talk like daily. I have this guy, I work with him, but not like all the time, and I'll like I'll you know, we're being a call or something. This thing is like remotely, I guess you don't get into music as much as maybe if you're working in the office. But uh, you know, I'm like, oh every time we're at this, I said, you know, I'm at the shop or I'm looking by and vinyl, I always see if there's a liquid swords, and he goes, Oh, I ended up getting that. You know, I'm like, okay, cool. So we so now we, you know, I'm like, hey, been to, you know, he lives in Memphis, and they're like, I've been to Shangri-La lately, because that's a record store there that I actually went to one time. So it's like, he goes, Oh yeah, that's still there. I'm like, oh cool. It was like 20 years ago when I went there, and it's still kicking. So I mean, that's a good thing. But so that's all you find somebody that isn't in music, you will bring it up, you know, but it doesn't come up as much any like at work anymore, or I don't know, sometimes it's a I like what it does because you it lets you into something, you know, like exactly.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Well, that's what I was gonna say. You can kind of uh lighten the mood a little bit to start off before you get into the formalities of work. Because for me, like I'm sitting when I'm at when I'm on this podcast. If you're watching this on YouTube, I'm always sitting. But when I'm in meetings, typically I have a you know, elevated desktop, I have a Vare desk, so and I have it propped up, and you can see prominently the albums behind me. And depending on you know, somebody working on the I would I would totally bring it up.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

If I was at a meeting with you, I'd I'd for sure say something about what you got going on in the background.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

Yeah, like Don the first time, he goes, Oh man, I didn't know you had your albums displayed. Look at that, Tom Petty, stud, you know, just right. And uh we were meeting with this one group, and it's all females. It was a um, I don't know if I yeah, I don't work with them anymore, but anyway, it was a female arousal company. Uh big, big, big brand too. And they had a big uh there the owner of that company has a big social media following and stuff. And two of the gals that we were working with were always like, oh, look at that. Got some 90s stuff up there, got some sound guard. And I'm like, oh Joanne liking some SoundGarden. I like it. And she goes, Oh, it's all 90s, baby. You and she goes, You and I are the same age. So I saw absolutely man, I love the 90s. I love that kind of breaker. Like when I met Jacob, who I work with now, he owns uh Georgia Players Guild. When I met him, he commented on the jazz. I think it was not a Kenny Burel, it might have been a Wes Montgomery album, and he's a he's a guitarist, right? And he started playing jazz guitar. He goes, half of us got into jazz, and the reason we started doing the tribute thing is you can't make any money in Atlanta playing jazz, so you gotta do something. Right. Uh he goes, but he goes, for me, it was Wes Montgomery, um uh Schofield, and of all things, Earl Clue. Okay, and so he made me, because I've seen Earl Clue albums all over the place. Right, they're all over the place. And I'm like, I didn't say anything, but I'm like, I'm gonna check out some Earl Clue. Like, you got if if you're mentioning him in the same thing as John Schofield and Wes Montgomery, right? I listen to it, and it's not my favorite style, but man, hell of a player.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

It's more it's a little smoother, right? I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Same thing with George Benson, but George Benson was a beast.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

I have a George Benson album on vinyl.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

Yeah, dude, Breeson is a absolute classic. Classic. I love that album. Yeah, I was curious because uh I had a conversation with a client recently and I was not expecting it. Uh he's he doesn't listen, so I can go ahead and say he I I love the guy, but he's a total pain in the ass. He's just he's older, he keeps breaking stuff. Uh, he just continually, I tell him, okay, don't touch this platform because if you change anything on it, like it come back, oh everything, everything, all the stats went down. And I look at it, I'm like, Did you change the landing page? Yeah, updated. I updated the landing page, and I go, you just broke everything. I'm doing that, dude. I thought I do that. And he said he made a reference and he goes, Oh man, you know me, I'm like uh it wasn't David Allen Co, who was a country artist, and he just blew me away. He was like, I'm like Merle Haggard, man. I just do what I feel. And I'm like, okay, you go back in my crosses. You went to Merle Haggard. I said, are you Merle Haggard fan? And he goes, Oh, absolutely, man. You like Merle Haggard? It's a youngster like you. And I'm like, absolutely, that's real country music. We must have talked for like 15 minutes. It's like, oh man, you got to check out Fred Neal and some of these other artists. I was telling him about like some of the kind of blend of country and folk, and he goes, Oh, I've definitely checked that out. I love it, man.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Yeah, I was on a call this time with this guy, and he was uh guy I worked with, he doesn't work with the bus anymore, but he was like, you know, it's it's good when you don't, I don't know, you don't know you don't never know what somebody's into, right? That's what's funny when you find out he's like and he was talking or he said something, and maybe he accidentally said something that sounded like Alexa or something, right? And you know, and he was like, Oh, just started playing Queen's Reich. And like, I'm like, what? Well, I'm like, oh really, what album? You know, it's just like you know, then it was like, okay. Last thing I was listening to, or I'm like, nice. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Would have never, you know, not that you look at somebody you don't know they're, you know, but I'm like, okay. So it like changed the way I felt, you know. I was like, all right, this guy's this guy's cool. Listening to Queens or I can work.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

But that's another topic altogether. I don't you probably don't remember the customer, but he always came in wearing a suit because he was a lawyer, is a defense attorney.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

I was talking about this guy.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

And I mean, he listened to hate heavy, heavy like death metal thrash. It was anything from like uh Lamb of God to hate breed to um ISIS, okay, stuff like that. Just like really um, and so I had just hired Alex, and Alex didn't know him. He comes up, I mean, just dressed to the nines. Like he had, I mean, he had impeccable his throats were really expensive. He came up and he's expecting like Hootie and the Blowfish and stuff, and he's like, Oh my god, neurosis, lamb of God. Burn the priest. I was like, he and he walked out and he goes, Were you not thrown off? I said, Dude, I I've known Tom. I I still know the guy's his name is Tom Bush. Right. Still know this guy. Because he was like, I was like, I just so admire the fact that and I go, it has nothing to do with right. He goes, Well, I get it. I'm a little bit older. I think he was in his late 50s, early 60s. I'm a lo- Yeah, you don't expect that. But he goes, I grew up with this stuff, man. There's nothing better. He goes, you want to talk about a show, go to one of these shows. He said, It is unreal. There, nothing will ever and I go, dude, I totally get it. You know, I said the best shows I've seen are Iron Maiden shows, and I know that's not on your level. He goes, Oh my god, Iron Maiden's in my top five. I was like, okay, so I love surprises like that because you just can't can't paint a book, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Right. I I wish people would bring up music a little bit more because it would like give it a little insight, you know. I mean, I don't want to say you like or don't like somebody based on who they're listening to, but it's always nice to you'll see them like, oh, can you somebody say something? Oh, can you hear my music in the background? I'm like, no. What are you listening to? And they'll say something. I'm like, oh, okay. You know, it's like it's something that you didn't think they were listening to hip-hop, or I don't know. It's just kind of I'm like, okay, that's that's cool. Yeah. I'm not, um, and I've I don't know, it's a whole nother probably another day, but I'm I'm like, I'm I'm almost, I don't know, maybe I'm I'm done passing judgment. So I'm almost anti-music snob at the moment, or lately. I've never really been music snobby, but you know, I'm like, I don't know, open to whatever. You're listening to something good for you because you're listening to something funny.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

I, you know, I want to be that way. I mean it it it to me it's just when the same names get thrown out, and even bands I love. I when we were in Vegas and we went to one of the breweries out there, it's a guy behind us, and you know, he's like talked about Coldplay, and he said, Oh my god, and you know, I loved Coldplay, I did. I don't love them now. Right, but um, but I just felt like some of the other stuff, he's a post Malone and stuff like that. I was like, I like post Malone, but he's just throwing out stuff that was like super popular, popular, right? But I've gotten to the point now where I get it, you know. At the time I was more frustrated by it, but I totally get it because like it is so prominent. It's so that's all you hear about, and it and if you really go and listen to that stuff, it's not bad. I mean, it you know, not all of it is great. I'm not saying it's something that I'm gonna lean towards and start, but sometimes, man, you do you listen to the stuff and you're just like you know, I'm not a big uh I'm trying to think of the band, uh, chain smokers or something like that. But you know, I heard something, I was like, well, that's not altogether horrible. I can, you know, I can see I can see why people like it is is my main thing. I just I think the big thing, and we'll move on and we'll close out here in a second, but I think the big thing is we just need a shift. Right. Uh the shift being something there's just I don't know if we're ever gonna have movements like we had in the 90s and the early aughts to where something comes through and just absolutely takes over. Right now, everything's kind of in that same vein, whether it's pop, country, rap.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:14

Um, it's all kind of samey at this point. And I don't blame people. I mean, I I fall into moods, and sometimes when I fall into moods, it's like Kevin and I both, you know, he might share three albums, and those three albums might be similar in vain. I know I listen to a lot of shoe gaze, dream pop, stuff like that. He's probably like, oh more jazz and dream pop. That's all you know. But you know, we we lean into what we like the most, but there's always a nice surprise. Like I heard a song, and I can't I can't remember where I heard it, but it was a Fairport convention song. Okay, and I was like, holy crap, that's good. And I just pause and said, boom, bookmarked to listen to the album. Like, I would never think to go to this, but Jesus, it's so good. And then I would then I'm off the airplane and stuff like that. I'm like, you know, so you let stuff move you into different directions. So I I don't know. I just I would like to see some sort of movement come in because when we were growing up in our prominent years of listening to music and listening to the radio or whatever, there was ska and swing and right punk and grunge and metal, all that stuff. Just kind of everything had its moment. And I don't know if anything's really having a big moment right now, and all just kind of I mean, some of those only lasted a short time, but it was cool when it was going on.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

You know, you heard all different kinds of stuff like ska swing, and you're like last time you heard a swing swing band.

SPEAKER_00 43:46

And you hear the squirrel nut zippers or big bad voodoo daddy. I haven't heard them in forever.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

I think I saw squirrel zippers were coming in concert or something. I don't know. Something was I think I saw them in the news recently, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 43:57

I like to see them, man. Jimbo Mathis is awesome. Awesome. He he did that album. Any I'm telling you, if Andrew Bird does an album with you, Andrew Bird is incredible, just an incredible musician. And he did an album with Jimbo. And I go, I knew. I just knew that band's just different. I mean, I know it was kitschy, but they were cool.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

They were they were fun.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Scroll nut zippers, that stuff is not easy to play.

SPEAKER_01 44:21

No, they were great. I remember seeing that. I saw them once or twice. It was good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 44:25

Yeah. I'd go see them if they came to town, that's for sure. All right. Well, you got more freeform. We're gonna leave it lean into the freeform. Unless you got anything else, Kevin, I guess we'll I'll hold it.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

I'll hold it back. We don't need to. We'd start a whole nother, we'd go down another probably rabbit hole. So maybe I'll share. But we're good. Good time to wrap up, I think.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

Yeah. Uh 2018, once again, Spencer, thank you so much for throwing out a 1966 gym. We appreciate it. Yes, sir. Listeners, hit us up, right, Kevin?

SPEAKER_01 44:58

Exactly. At schizomusicpod at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

We will mention you on air, we promise. All right. Thanks so much. As always, we appreciate you. And until next time, take care. Make it easy.