S6 – Ep 16 | Songs Under 2 Minutes? Buffets? + 2009 Hidden Gems

Craig kicks things off this week by putting Kevin through another round of Dig It or Dump It, featuring a mix of music-related debates, random lifestyle topics, and a few curveballs that spark some strong reactions along the way.

From there, the guys move into their featured year: 2009.

Kevin spotlights For the Whole World to See by Death, the once-lost release from the pioneering Detroit band whose sound was far ahead of its time. Craig follows with Tight Knit by Vetiver, a mellow and richly layered folk-rock record filled with warmth and subtle detail.

The episode bounces between proto-punk energy, laid-back indie folk, and plenty of spontaneous conversation in between.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Schizophrenic Music is a signal syndicate production.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Well, hello, and welcome into Schizophrenic Music Podcast, aka Schizomusic Pod. My name is Craig, and I'm joined here by, as always, by Kevin.

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Hello.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Kevin, how you doing, man?

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Oh, doing all right. Doing all right. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Alright, we're gonna talk about a little bit of music as we always do, do some random chat. Maybe we'll divert into something really weird. Who knows? Who knows what's gonna happen? Um, if you are new to this podcast, thank you so much for joining in. We do a variety of things here. Uh one of the things we've been doing here for many, many weeks. In fact, we're past the halfway point from 1960 to 2025. We select albums that Kevin and I both think are underrated, overlooked, or both. So there you go. Um this year, and we do this randomly, we just do a random number picker. Uh 2009 is the year this year. But, but if you are new to this podcast, or if you're not, if you're not, you know what our tradition is. Our tradition is to start things off with a nice beverage. Kevin, what you got?

SPEAKER_00 1:40

I have a beer that I've never had. Well, I have had a couple of them, but never on here. Never before this six-pack, but I saw it, and and it's I'll have to admit, and no disrespect whatsoever, because any brewery is you know great, but it's not our favorite brewery because they got a lot of beers, but they're they're good. You know, they're not nothing, it's like knocking your socks.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

You're saying it's a six-seven exactly.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

You don't you might know what I'm talking about, but it's from New Realm Brewing Company. And the thing is, I like what they're doing because this is a music-themed beverage. It is the official beer of legendary southern rock band Blackberry Smoke.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Oh nice. I have not seen that.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

American Lager.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

And it's good.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

It's good. You know, I mean, it's a you know, not blowing, not knocking your socks off, but it's a good beer.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Who was it that did the driving and crying beer? Was that burnt hickory?

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Somebody, whoever but then there was Southern. Southern always does, but I don't think there was Southern that did that.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Um, it was either Burnt Hickory or the same one that had the hoplin.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

That's Southern, I think, out of Savannah.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Yeah, maybe maybe it was Southern.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Because I used to get the mountain jam from Southern, which was really good. Which was really good. It was just like a I don't see are they still around?

SPEAKER_01 3:19

I think I could be wrong. Hold on. Bert Hickory's gone, and then the one that uh what was the other one that had the really well transmigration of souls was a big beer from them. Um their clothes, I can't remember the name of their. Okay, that's not a beer. Becca was even saying earlier because she's like she's like, ah, I got all this work to do. I'm gonna crack open a beer. And she goes, All we have is fall beer. And I'm like, I've been whittling down all this other stuff. I've been buying session beers to watch the games with. I've been whittling down until we go to the beach. Uh, and I looked in the fridge, I was like, what can I drink? All I have is non-alcoholic. So and I wasn't feeling that.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

So I'm gonna Orpheus is correct. You were correct on the Orpheus, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

I quickly um I do have a water, a little chaser to crack it up with. A polar, a polar to crack it up. I'm gonna count it down. Here you go. Three, two, one. That's perfect. Hey, we've been getting nothing but uh here. Maybe you'll hear. There you go. Oh yeah, yeah, I heard the chord. Um we've been getting uh nothing but just smooth beer popping sounds here recently. They're very happy about that. Um I got a good bit. This is sweet. Cheers, man. Cheers. Man, I want to it's good beer.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

I mean, it's just straight, it's like 4.5 or something. That's a nice, good, crushable beer.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

That's like the um I I shared that dogfish head with you. I think I think I had it on the last episode. I yeah, no lie, I ran out of them this past weekend. I was listening to uh well, I was actually watching the Georgia Tech series on TV outside, and I ran out of them, and I'm like, ah, and I drank a non-alcoholic, I had an athletic hazy IPA. Swear to god, that hazy IPA was tastier than the critical dead beer. But that kind of beer is great on the beach, you know, pound it back, super easy. So, no complaint. I do wish New Realm, okay, for those of you who don't know, New Realm has without a doubt, the nicest, probably nicest facility in Atlanta for sure, as far as a brewery goes. Great setup, it's on the belt line. The belt line is awesome. Their beers, we were really excited, Kevin and I both, because the original brewmaster from Stone Brewing in California, which is legendary. I mean, they have some of the best IPAs. I mean, they just rewrote the rules on IPA. Uh, but when he came out here and they opened up, he didn't do IPAs that much. He's doing like a Pilsner, and and everything's just kind of just good. Nothing's bad. Nothing's bad, right? It's just like we're expecting to be wild and have right.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

I do like that.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

What's it the psychedelic rabbit? Rabbit is excellent. That's a good beer. So all right, Kevin. I've got some stuff for you if you want to go into something. Let's go into something different. If you got something for me, right? I say this every time, man. Hit me with it. I definitely have some uh dig it or dump it for you. Let's start off with that instead of the uh albums. Sure. All right. All right, dig it or dump it for Kevin. Here we go. Let me move the mic here so I can see my you know we we like to have fun here. It's not all musically themed, some of the stuff is a little random. Um I'm gonna start off with uh some music stuff. Dig it or dump it, Kevin. Long intros before vocals.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Ah I dig that.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

That's cool. I agree. It's a lost art, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Yeah, you don't say like I think the like right off the bat, I think of uh I don't know, song popped in my head was Elton John. Was it Funer for Friend or whatever? He jumped, yeah, the big that right? That's a big big old long. I mean, like you're going into it and it's building up, or John Cougar at the time, you know, I need a lover that won't drive me crazy. It's a it does that little that big long build up and find him when he starts singing. I'm that's cool. I dig it. You don't they don't do it anymore. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

Like people, it's funny. I listened to another podcast and they were listening to songs, and they're like, Man, they just don't do this anymore. Like, man, this and it wasn't just your epic bands or your classic rock bands, a lot of it listen to the RB soul songs from the 90s. Dude, the buildup on some of this stuff is like a minute and a half long. It's kind of cool. Just kind of on your seat waiting for the next move. So I agree. Dig it. Uh, Kevin, dig it or dump it, songs under two minutes. Complete opposite.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

I mean, I don't have an issue with it, but I don't know. I'm not a big, I'm not a big I know there's a couple of those albums that you've shared that are kind of fun and just like everything it's like a 35-minute album, then there's 26 songs or something. It's like, okay. So that's cool, but I don't know. I need a little, I need a, you know, a little bit more, I think.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

I'm I'm I I think we can both agree. I I I think I do dump it um as much as I like this, because that's Tony Molina. I like what he's doing, and he's it's brilliant to a certain extent. I never listen to his albums. I listen to it once or twice, and then I just never come back to it. I'm happy when I listen to it, but I'm just compelled to come back to it.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

It's too short. But then there's something like, and I don't know, I'm now not gonna look, but most of them are really short, but like uh we're going totally different direction. But Jay Dilla Donuts, those are all like really short, uh but those are awesome, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:37

I mean, it's like because he's piecemealing like all these instrumentals and segues, and it's so good. I think that's different. I think instrumental music is to me on a different level. All right, uh, dig it or dump it. I have no idea where you stand with this. I think you're gonna side with me, but uh dig it or dump it, Kevin. Fantasy football.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Fantasy football? I'll dig it. Will you?

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Are you in a league? I am in a league.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

I've been in a league since since college. I mean, since after college, we've been playing for years, and I have to admit, I probably should pay more attention because I get, you know, I won a couple times, I think, but I I don't I'm not as I don't pay enough attention to make myself dangerous, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

So you've been to you've been to Hutton and Smith with me, right? Uh they do like a full spread there on like a Sunday, like leading into it. They do their draft and everybody's in there and they've got their iPads, and it's crazy. And I I think that's cool. I'm gonna dump it. I just I you know I love my college football. I I root for teams that don't root for players. Now are there are some players that former players that I will definitely root for them. I'll root root for Jameer Gibbs and you know Keelan Rutledge going uh to wherever he's going from Georgia Tech. So I'll root for them, but I'm not rooting necessarily for stats. If I want a team to win, I want them to win.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

So right. I it it's like you can't root against somebody you want to win because you're gonna win that week in your fantasy football league. That's kind of wrong, right? It's like second, right? Or you but it does make you maybe pay attention to things that you probably wouldn't pay attention to, like people you wouldn't or teams you wouldn't care about or whatever, but it's a I just don't I don't religiously watch, you know, getting my stuff. I'll just check the stats of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

It's a huge it's a huge business. I mean, and I think it's cool from uh I just remember one time at the beach, we had a couple friend of ours that came with us, and Mark was upstairs, and he like ditched us for like four straight hours because he had to do his draft. Yeah, we're dude, we're at the beach, you know. He's like, Oh, I gotta do it, man. I gotta do it. I'm like, uh yeah, but you know, I get it and I don't get it. So anyway. All right, Kevin, what do you think about artists dropping multiple albums in a year? Dig it or dump it.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

It's tough. I have to like I waffle on that because there's certain bands that I love it, certain artists that it's great. But then I need a little, I need a little time because I need to digest the album that you just released before you get another one out, you know, so it's kind of tough. Now, somebody like Dr. Bionic and give it to give me more, you know, and that's cool. But then there's some that just like I don't know, felt like it was like too much. Like I we talk, it's kind of a joke, but like King Gizzard and Lizard Wizard, right? They release too much stuff, you know. It's like yeah, they're all over the place. Not that I'm a big fan, but it's like, geez, you know, it's like there's tons.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Or your other band uh that releases I love guided by voices, but I gotta say, I can't keep up with them. I I can't, and it it to me, it it has a tendency to kind of all blend together, and so does Dr. Bionic, but Dr. Bionic just works because his albums lead, they lend themselves to you can absorb it upon first listen. I can shuffle Dr. Bionic and be perfectly happy, right? I I don't want to shuffle a guided by voice and guided by voices, and same thing with King Gizzard. We're talking sometimes three albums a year. That's just right.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

Doctor hasn't been doing as much. No, so that's that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

I've got them digitally. I need those last couple albums on bottle, though. All right, hey guys, if you haven't listened to Dr. Bionic, do that immediately after finishing this podcast. Okay, Kevin. Uh, dig it or dump it, spoken word tracks on albums.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Whole track. Spoken word. It's all right, I guess. I mean, I don't want to totally dump it. It's just eh. That's the way I it's not like you're gonna listen to it again, right? You hear it one time, then it's like, okay, that's cool. But I don't like sit here and listen to a spoken word more than once.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

I guess with spoken word, it depends on the like I've heard some really prominent albums that we would love, like the Fred Neil type, that kind of thing. But there's one that I listened to wasn't as long, it was really close to like Jackson C. Frank, where it was like this is really good, and he'll have one song where it's like he does like poetry, and it's not that I don't appreciate your poetry, it just completely breaks the rhythm of the album, right? So uh, but have you heard the new Parlour Greens album? I have not um really cool because at the end of the album, second one second, yeah, second one. Okay, at the end of the album, he's talking to his mom. Jimmy James is talking to his mom, okay, and they're talking about telling each other how much they love each other, and I was like, oh, that's sweet, that's not right.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

I was just listening to, I thought it was interesting, uh Ray? Yeah, yeah, Ray.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

R R R A Y E, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:29

R A Y E. Right. At the end of her album, the last song is like a thank you song where she like basically does the liner notes, but over a track, like to music, like, oh thanks so-and-so for doing this and this, and like okay, that's kind of cool. You know, I can dig that, but you know, it's a serpent, probably don't listen to it again, but it's cool that she thanks everybody in the city.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

The cool thing is it's at the end of the album, just like the parlor greens in the album. It's not like you put it smack in the middle.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Uh yeah. Now, the beginning of which when he like introducing and introducing, and then on the Zango, Zhang Zango, he does a little talking thing, which is cool.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

So, I mean, we have we reserved the right to be 100% total hypocrites, but that's all right.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

I I think I think we can I think we can dig it depending on the situation. Definitely not competition. Okay. Um Kevin, what's your take on acoustic reworks of existing albums? This one's tricky, man.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

I really don't need it. I just want you to release an acoustic album, release an acoustic album all on its own. I'm cool with that. But I don't need the songs that I I love or listen to redone acoustically. I don't need to hear it that way.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

This is different from Unplugged, by the way, people, because Unplugged is right, not like Five Man Acoustical Jam, something like that, or you know, Nirvana Unplugged, or any of those people unplugged.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

What's your take on a clap and unplugged? You like it?

SPEAKER_01 17:21

It's alright too. People love it. I think it's alright. Yeah, you know. I like the idea behind it.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

I do, but for him, it's like I've liked more of the storytellers where I like them talking about something and then going into the song.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

I didn't know we need a Peter Case acoustic album with audience participation primarily with Kevin and I. Sure, exactly. We want to ask him questions. Okay, so I think we're both in the same uh I did see a storytellers one time.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

I won't go into the stuff. Oh, no, no, no, go for it. I love storyteller stuff. No disrespect, no disrespect to this band. But I went to actually Chattanooga, the Tivoli Theater, to see one of my favorite artists, my wife loves him too, Will Hogue was playing, but he was actually opening up for this band who I don't know that they necessarily go together, but they were doing like a storyteller's thing. And uh it with a band was Shinedown. Doing an uh wow, I can't storytellers thing, not necessarily acoustic, but storytellers, and like it not every band needs to do a storyteller's thing. I'm trying not to understand the music is bad by any means. I like their stuff, but it's just not like I remember it's a joke of mine that my wife and I do. It's like, you know, sometimes when you know you get really down and you just need that pick me up and you don't know where you're going, and you need you know that encouragement, and you know, I this is what this song's about. It's called Sound of Madness. And I'm like, what the hell? Like Sound of Madness, it's really not that deep, right? You there's really nothing behind behind sound of madness, right? It's like it's not like you know, you told some, I don't know. So it's kind of like yeah, just play the songs. I don't uh yeah, they don't really need to be a story. Have I told you about one of my biggest regrets missing a show? I think so.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

You've told me we've done this, so we've definitely I don't know if I've talked about this one in particular. This is probably this is up there, is my big maybe my biggest regret. And I remember being on the fits about it because it's like I loved his original band and I liked really loved his first album, but I'm like, eh, I don't know, it's not like I'm seeing the furs. But Richard Butler and Love Spit Love played you told I think this. I think and um the guy that I knew was the buyer, the guy that told me about it, and said, I'll give you free tickets to it if you'll go with me. And I just ended up we worked super late, and I I was supposed to be there at like 7:30, and I'm the just couldn't make it out, and I made excuses. I ended up going hanging out with friends, stupid, and so and ironically, or coincidentally, his name was Richard as well. So Richard comes back in the next day on Saturday and says, Oh my god, it was incredible. And I go, Oh, they were good, and he goes, Oh man, it was so cool, it was all acoustic. And I'm like, Well, that's interesting. And he goes, in between every song, Richard Butler allowed the audience to ask questions. I'm like, Oh, well shit, okay, damn. That's that. He goes, That's not even the best part. I'm like, Oh man, stop, just stop. He said, I ran into him at the bar across the street, and I hung out with him at the bar and talked with him for an hour and a half. You're like, shut up, dude, that's not fair. Come on. Okay, so that's my biggest regret. He goes, Yeah, you totally would have met him. He goes, He's a super down-to-earth guy. I'm like, well, shoot. Anyway, okay. Um, yeah, I think we're both on the same fence about uh acoustic reworks. I don't necessarily need I don't know if it's existing songs, is one thing. Like if you're doing a collab a compilation of things, that could work. I don't want existing albums. I don't want you to do an entire album, but right. Okay, Kevin, this is this one's real serious here. Uh dig it or dump it, parallel parking.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

I think it's I mean, I can parallel park. I don't think I think it's a lost art personally, but because you don't really have to do it that much. Unless you live in a big city, you don't really need to parallel park. Rarely do you need to parallel park. I love it. But you see, like someone all of a sudden they're Doing it and they're like just scared to death, and they're coming in all like, oh, they're coming in at a you know, oh, bad angle. You can't that's not that's not gonna work. Oh, yeah, they're coming in too, you know, too. Yeah. I mean, I could do it, and I wish I did. I think it's you know, I wish I didn't. You know, it I don't do it very often, but I can. Same here.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

I I like it just because you have to you have to do it when you're in downtown Atlanta, you have to do it in downtown Chattanooga, just parking to be a premium depending on where you go.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

So I hate when there's cars like right behind you waiting, and you're like, come on.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Like, you know what I'm doing. Like, just be patient, go around, you you're good.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

All right, Kevin. Dig it or dump it, albums with skits. Dude, I was just I mean, this is for you for those that don't know, Kevin has done this explore ex exploration now at least for two years, if not longer.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Sure. It's done, but I still go revisit.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Top hip hop albums of all time.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Yeah, top 250 hip-hop albums of all time. Let's go. And there's some great stuff, and I'm glad I went through there because it's like, oh, reintroducing or introducing, or re you know, visiting things I you know listened to years ago or things I missed. Like I admit, like I kind of lost hip-hop for a period there. I don't know, I wasn't listening to anything. But hip-hop albums are notorious for the skits like in between the songs, and there's some of them are like uh, I don't know, maybe it was funny when it was out in 90 or 80 or something, but but it's just like I just could deal without it. Make they look at some of this because sometimes those albums are running like our 20 minutes, hour, you know, it's like get get cut out all the nonsense and just give me the album. And you don't want it, like I said, same thing with the spoken word thing. Once you hear that skit, you don't want there's there's no need to hear it again. So if you ever want to listen to an album, every time you're hearing it, you got this big old this this like skit in between. And some albums they put them like almost every other every other thing. Now, some albums you're gonna let it go. Miss Education on Lauren Hill, I'm gonna let that slide. You know, she does some skits and things on there, that's cool.

unknown 24:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

But sometimes just like inside jokes or things that you're like, and I know it probably wasn't made necessarily not all skits, and we're not just talking hip-hop, but some of the stuff probably not aimed at me in the beginning, but you know, I could deal without it, so I'll dump this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

I'll dumping it too. Um, I'll even say, and hip-hop is notorious for it. And just some of the stuff was just I can see it being funny, like you said, I can see it being funny. Uh, another one I I'm a big fan of Martin Newell and Cleaners from Venus, and one of my favorite albums from him, maybe it's 13, I think it's 13. I mean, there's a skit every two songs, and he he has this alter ego called Mr. Tootie Patootie. Like, it's just super goofy, and it's like, dude, your music is so cool, it's kitschy, but I don't need Mr. Pdoot. Yeah, I don't need that. Like, you just ruined the vibe. The vibe is going well. I wish I could skip it. Uh, at least digitally, you can like okay, delete, skit, delete, skit, just skip for the albums. Right. Yeah. I'm with you. I figured you you we've talked about this before. I knew you were gonna go this route. Yeah. All right. Two more, Kevin. Uh, diggit or dup it, holiday albums from non-holiday artists.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Like, uh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

I mean, prior to their first holiday album, T and Him was not a holiday band, but now they're kind of a holiday band.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

A holiday band, right. Well, yeah, some people that are just like fit perfectly, but Nora Jones.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Nora Jones goes right in there, right? Excellent. But then there's some cool things like I mean, sometimes it's like really is it just like a sometimes it's like you if maybe they phoned it. It seems like maybe somebody phoned it in, like they just wanted to do a cash grab kind of holiday album. But then there's some really cool things that are outside the ordinary, like the ventures Christmas album, right? Like that's like that is like you wouldn't you wouldn't think about that, but that's cool, you know. Or you know, there's I don't think there's I can't think of I'm trying to think of recent ones, but it's like, oh, but then there's some that like MGs. Right. But then there's some like Chris Twisted Sister did a Christmas album. That's funny, I heard it, but I don't need it, right? It's like, okay, it was cool, but I tried playing that for the wife, it didn't go over well.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Just as a joke, because I'm not even a fan of it, but I I'd say a good example of one that's not a holiday artist, it's one of your favorite Christmas albums. You know what I'm talking about. Nolins.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Oh, uh Leon Oh. Leon Redbone is is that is a incredible Christmas Island. Excellent.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

It's an excellent Christmas album, guys. I'm telling you. It I mean, it's got that New Orleans kind of bent to it. That's why it works.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Oh, Leon Redbone was great.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

All right. Last one here. Super serious. Get ready. Dig it or dump it, Kevin. All you can eat buffets.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

I'll have to dig that. I mean, I don't know frequenting them very often, but there's some times when you go and it's just like, yeah, this is cool. So like it. Dig it. All right.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

Swift and clean there. All right. Well, that's digit or dump it. Now we're gonna move on to our album of the week coming from 2009. Underrated, overlooked, or both. I am gonna pass the baton to Kevin. Oh, alright. Unless you want me to go first.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

No, no, no, I can go. Now, I was, you know, this 2009, I was looking through all of my all of the albums. I'm like, there's some really cool, there's some great stuff in 2009. But then I was like, okay, there's a band, and I the minute it got there, I was like, oh, this is this is it, and it's one of those albums that like one of those kind of like you know, they we talked about that uh what's the band? Uh Dark. Oh yeah, right, that everybody was looking for, stuff like that. So this album was actually recorded in the 70s, but it was it was shelved and never released until night until 2009. And uh there's a band, and they have a name that's one of those names that like there's other there's at least one other band that has this name. Maybe two, there's more than one. And so this was a band, they released their album, originally recorded this in 1974, and they're out of the wonderful city of Detroit, Michigan. So, Bobby Dannis and Davis Hackney were raised in Detroit in the 60s, and while the African American brothers reveled in their regional RB, their love of guitar, bass, and drums was cemented after seeing Iggy and the Stooges live. Alright. They recorded their first demos in the mid-70s, and after the studio owner brought them to the attention of Mr. Clive Davis, who's who discovered a couple bands, a couple artists in there. Couple. So, the brothers signed a deal with Columbia Records. However, Davis backed away when the band refused to change their name. Okay. And then they won the everything was shelved and they wound up releasing the songs on their own label. Well, they they released the existing songs on their own label label. Decades later, one of the guys' sons convinced their father to dig out the tapes, and they reached a deal with this other record company called Drag City, and they released the Lost Classics in 2009, and it's called For the Whole World to See. And the band is called Death.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Yeah, yes, okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Death, not Death as in the Florida death metal band Death, which you know, hey, but this guy, there is three black brothers, African-American brothers, that were recording stuff, and it's just good like you know, there was a good, there was a sound, there was a Detroit sound in the 70s, you know, of a of just like of just cool stuff. They said that they're after that another thing they read about them. They're like, they started as a funk group, but quickly switched their style to rock after seeing concerts by the Who and Alice Cooper. I'm like, right there, I got that you got that, right? But it's like it's just straight ahead garagey hard rock from the 70s from 74, maybe kind of proto metal, a little bit of proto-punk in there, but it was just good hard rock and roll that got shelled for years and just released in 2009. And like I think the two survived there's there's three of them, but two surviving members end up they've released some things since then, but never, of course, never got the do that they should have, you know. So the band is Death. The album was called For the Whole World to See. I think they've released uh a couple things since then, but this is just a great like hard rock 1970s Detroit rock and roll. Have you Death for the Whole World? Have you seen the documentary?

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Have not it's a band called Death, right?

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Yeah, yeah. And I I was talking to a like a guy and just guy I work out with is like talking about like played it, like Death. He was like, Oh, you and people like what like no, these guys like I'm like, how do you even know this?

SPEAKER_01 32:45

You know, so it was like kind of cool that he, you know, somebody else I met knew of that's a documentary I've heard that you don't have to know the band to be right thoroughly engaged in the documentary. Like everybody watches it going, how on earth do we like to me? I think of a band like Bad Brains. Right. You know, I I feel like that's something too that Bad Brains would have brought them on tour, and they are great. That album is when you mentioned that too. I was like, that sounds familiar. I thought that was the band name when you said the album name.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Uh but I do admit that probably the band, the name, a minimum of 74. There weren't these other bands called Death, but you know, it probably didn't help.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

You know, no, that's that's awesome. That's a good pick. I forgot about that. Well, on another note, on a completely different note, uh, 2009 was interesting because um God, this is right when I first started working in the corporate world after my store closed, and I dissolved everything online, and I said, all right, I gotta do something different. And so I was listening to a wide variety of stuff, and this is really when I started getting into more chilled-out music. You know, I was really absorbing that more, I just put me at peace. And I honestly think this guy, and the it it's a band, but it's primarily one guy. Um, it is to me, I think he is the absolutely defines chill. It is not super somber, it's not super melancholic, it's just chill.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

I saw that in there, so I knew you I thought you might go.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Every time I go to the beach, I listen to all the of his last four albums.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

This is the album where you think he likes his starting point, right? This was it right here.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Okay, that's uh, and for those of you on YouTube, I was just going to show you. This is uh his name is Vetiver, the band's name is Veterver, and this is called Tight Knit from 2009. Um, he had three albums prior to this, right? Um, three albums prior to this. He was a part of the whole Donovan Frankenreiter and all these different called freak folk. Uh, and the stuff was good. If you look on AllMusic, the album to buy, the album to listen to, their go-to is Thing of the Past, which is from 2008. It's just not quite there for me. He hadn't quite found what his last four albums have done consistently, which is just he finds a way to blend like psychedelic music in a very chill way. It's just it's therapeutic. His voice is his name is Andy Kubik. Is that right? Is that how you pronounce his name? Um Kabuk. Andy Kabick. Um, I am just a huge, huge fan of uh of this guy, and it all started here. Um, this album and Errant Charm, the follow-up in 2011, have been go-tos for me forever. I think Complete Strangers, the follow-up to that, is an excellent album. That is my more of a morning, sit on the beach, chill morning album. And then Up on High, kind of the the pitcher on that, the album art says it all. That's kind of like a mountain album. It's interesting. Okay. I freaking love this guy. I just do. Uh, I listened to it earlier today, just put me in the best mood. Um, most of it is kind of acoustic, but then he layers in some effects with electric guitar and stuff. His voice is just super smooth, chill. I mean, he just defines, absolutely defines chills. One of my favorite artists. Um, and like I said, every time I go to the beach, I listen to these albums multiple, multiple times. My wife loves it. She always it always puts her in a good mood. So uh check out Vetiver. He hasn't put out anything in a while. Last album came out in 2019, so he is due. Really? He is due. I know he's still doing something because I saw a single pop up. Um, but yeah, I'm uh I'm just a big, big fan. So vetiver.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

I have definitely checked him out since you have you brought him to my attention. So definitely.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Good porch sipping, just sitting on the porch, sipping a beer, just great music. All right. Well, I don't have anything else unless you have something.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Nah, we're we're I think we've gone for it.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

We're at the perfect mark. Okay, guys, thank you so much for listening in. Once again, if first time in, thank you so much for joining us for the first time. Hoping you feel compelled to come back. Uh, as always, whether it's 2009, whatever year, you let us know.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Let us know what you think. Let us know what you think. Yeah. Schizzlemusicpod at gmail.com. Send us a recommendation, a question, anything like that. We'll gladly listen to it, talk about it, response. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

It could be an album from somebody. We've done this before. We've picked albums from really big artists that we feel like is an underrated album for them. So full gambit. Uh, all right. Well, until next time, we appreciate you joining in and uh take care.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

Take it easy.